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JW-Mutagenerator-Spiel mit Mut. Optionen (Regeln auf 1.Seite) geöffnet Oktober 2016
#1
Da das bestehende Spiel mit dem Mutagenerator gut angenommen wird, schicke ich ein zweites ins Rennen, ist etwas spezieller, doch nicht all zu schwer. Der Unterschied ist, dass hier keine neuen Sachen generiert werden, aber dennoch schöne Formen aus einem Parameter entstehen können. Sollte irgendwann nichts mehr brauchbares rauskommen, werde ich neue Parameter setzen. Beide Spiele können von euch beliebig oft benutzt werden, wie ihr Zeit und Lust habt.

Folgende Regeln: Ihr sucht euch irgendein Bild aus diesem Thread aus, welches ihr mal durch den Mutagenerator schicken wollt, kopiert die Parameter und fügt sie in euer Programm ein - auf "From Clipboard" klicken.
Im Mutagenerator folgende "Mutation Optionen" einstellen (Feld rechts unten) - in welcher Reihenfolge ihr das macht, ist egal:
- ADD_Transform
- ADD_Variation
- RANDOM_Parameter
- CHANGE_weight
- AFFINE oder AFFINE 3D


Es kann eine bestimmte Option auch mehrfach genommen werden, z.B. 2 mal - ADD_Transform/2 mal RANDOM_Parameter usw.


Dann lasst ihr den Mutagenerator drüber laufen, es können so viele Versuche wie möglich gestartet werden, bis euch ein Ergebnis gefällt. Das wählt ihr aus, rendert das Bild und zeigt es im Forum bzw. postet die Parameter - auf "To Clibpoard" klicken. Der nächste kann diese oder ältere Parameter über den Mutagenerator laufen lassen, wählt ein Bild aus was euch gefällt und postet die Parameter.
(Farben könnt ihr auch ändern, wenn ihr möchtet)

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Hallo zusammen ;D

So hab mal ein wenig rumgebastelt ;D Hier mein Produkt mit den Paras von der Andrea ;D

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Und der mein Code:
Code:
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Viel Spas beim generieren ;D
Tschöö

Gerriet | PinguinsReisen.de
#3
Parameter eingestellt und mutiert.
Herausgekommen ist das.

[Bild: medium]

Code:
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</flame>
#4
Hier mal meines:

[Bild: medium]

Code:
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#5
Weiter geht's ins Wochenende.

[Bild: medium]

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#6
Hier meines:

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Habe gesehen, dass sich schon einiges an Formeln angesammelt hat und viele Final-Formeln. Sollte es irgendwann zuviel an Formeln werden bzw. nichts mehr brauchbares herumkommen, schlage ich vor evtl. noch mal die ursprünglichen Parameter nutzen. Warten wir noch ein bisschen ab.
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#7
Wenn da wirklich nichts mehr "brauchbares" raus kommen sollte, könnte man ja auch das ganze dann zum Abschluss freigeben, also jeder nimmt dann den letzten parameter und bastelt nach gut dünken was draus ..

Was meint ihr dazu ?

Nachtrag: Also mit dem letzten Paras von der Andrea kommt bei mir defenitiv nichts besonders gutes raus .. Daher schlage ich vor, mit den Paras von der Andrea dann halt was zu basteln, wo man alles benutzen können ..
Tschöö

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#8
Ja, es haben sich mittlerweile zu viele Formeln angesammelt, besonders zu viele Final-Formeln, deshalb kommt nicht mehr viel neues bei rum.
So eine Kette soll ja immer weiterlaufen und sollte eher nicht zu Ende gebracht werden, sonst ist der Spaß schnell verloren. Um was aus Parameter zu basteln wäre vielleicht ein anderes Spiel besser, wo jemand Parameter angibt und ändert diese anhand von Formeln/Dreiecke verschieben oder so. Gab es im alten Forum ja schon mal.
Vielleicht sollten wir hier einfach noch mal mit den ersten Parameter beginnen. Ich z.B. könnte aus den ersten geposteten mindestens 20-30 verschiedene Fraktale erstellen, bei mir werden anscheinend selten zusätzliche Final-Formeln generiert die eine Form so sehr verändern können, dass nichts mehr wirkliches kommt...
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#9
Aus Andreas Parametern entstand bei mir folgendes „Fenster“.

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Allerdings schränken die verlangten Mutagen-Vorschriften das Ganze ziemlich ein. Bei mir waren manchmal nur ein bis zwei veränderte Flammen dabei.
#10
Jup mir gings genauso wie dem Mothra
Tschöö

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#11
Bei dem letzten hatte ich das Problem auch, aber bei den ersten??? Irgendwie merkwürdig, also bei mir kamen bei den ersten Parametern jedes Mal mindestens 5-7 verschiedene neue Formen raus?! Ich sehe bei einem Mutations-Spiel irgendwie keinen Sinn darin, wenn komplett neue Flames enstehen, sondern nur darin, dass man kleinere Veränderungen in einem eigenen Flame erzeugen lassen kann und das müssen jetzt zunächst keine großen sein, Farben kann man ja selbst verändern, die einem gefallen. Wenn ich was völlig komplett neues haben möchte, nur mal zum rumspielen, da ziehe ich den normalen Random Generator vor, denn da hab ich auch mehr Möglichkeiten dafür.

Nur mal zum Vergleich, das kommt bei mir bei den ersten Parametern raus, ich hätte da sogar 8 Sachen, wo ich nehmen könnte, mir persönlich fällt da schon die Auswahl schwer (hab da mal was angekreuzt)
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Kommt bei euch sowas wie bei mir nicht raus?
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#12
Mit Geduld und 8 Mutagen-Durchläufen, gibt es durch aus auch was neues.


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#13
Ich sehe das mit dem Mutagen ein wenig anders, ist immer sehr intressant, wenn man ein sehr einfaches Flame hat, wie sich das in dem Mutagen entwickelt. Daher mache ich das schon mal zwischendurch, manchmal nehme ich dann eins daraus, was mir halt dann gefällt und bearbeite es halt weiter.

Aber indem die Optionen vorgegeben sind, kommt es meist auf den ersten Flame an, den man durch den Mutagen schickt. Ob da nun viele formeln sind oder wenige, weiss nicht ob das so ne grosse Rolle spielt. Wenn ich ein Mandelbrot Varition Flame durch den Gen schicke muss nicht unbedingt ein Mandelbrot wieder rauskommen, da kann auch ein ganz andere Variation herrauskommen ;D
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#14
Es kommt sicher auf die Formeln an, aber wie ich euch gezeigt habe, bei mir kommen bei dem ersten Parameter mindestens 7 andere Formen raus. Es muss ja jetzt kein Meisterwerk sein und zunächst nur wenig verändert sein, große Veränderungen kommen dann sicher im Spiel irgendwann ganz allein raus und genau das ist das spannende daran. Wenn ich ein komplett neues Flame erstellen will, geh ich auf Random Batch und im Mutagenerator die Option "Random Flame" erzeugt einfach nur ein pures neues, was mit meinen vorigen Parametern leider nichts mehr zu tun hat und das find ich einfach megaschade Sad Deshalb hab ich die Option "Random Flame" schon immer weggelassen...dafür ist der Random Batch ja da und wenn ich davon was mutiert haben will, nutze ich auch den Mutagenerator um etwas anderes aus dem aus "Random Batch" erzeugten Flame zu erstellen. Genauso mach ich das auch mit den Farben, wenn ich andere Farben möchte, nutze ich die Farbpalette und Random dafür.
Ich muss aber auch bemerken, dass ich schon Formeln hatte, da konnte ich wirklich kaum was neues im Mutagen erzeugen so wie es jetzt auch bei den letzten Parametern der Fall war. Aber dann gibts aber auch Formelzusammenstellungen, wo ich gar 50 weitere schicke Bilder nach und nach erzeugen konnte.

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#15
Da bei dem letzten nicht mehr wirklich was neues herauskommt, habe ich mich noch mals an den Startparameter orientiert und u.a. kam dieses raus (nach drittem Versuch mal kein Absturz des Mutagenerators):
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